The Totum Podcast

Conversations on Culture, Conflict and Connection.

Human collaboration is complex. At Totum, we work in the thick it. This podcast is where we talk about it.

These are bite-sized conversations about the real stuff underneath workplace culture — not the policies or the perks, but the human dynamics that matter most. We’ll explore the tensions and questions that come with trying to build healthier, more conscious ways of working.

No big promises, just thoughtful, honest reflections on what it means to do the human work well — and why it matters more than ever.

In this episode, Oli and Lizzie reflect on the work of Ken Cloke and explore the idea that true conflict resolution requires courage, emotional intelligence, and effort. From the lazy logic of war to the transformative power of being “pro-conflict,” we ask: what does it take to approach disagreement not with dominance, but with depth?